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Ajahn Brahmavamso’s Dark Jhāna

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Are Pa-Auk and Ajahn Brahmavamso Jhāna the Same?

Many people believe that Ajahn Brahmavamso (“Ajahn Brahm”) teaches the same jhāna (samādhi absorption meditation) as Pa-Auk Method, but is Ajahn Brahm’s version of jhāna absorption filled with light?

No.

Is The Pa-Auk teaching and The Visuddhimagga teaching of jhāna absorption filled with light?

Yes.

While both Pa-Auk Sayadawgyi, and Ajahn Brahm speak about nimittas which are visual shiny objects of light that represent the breath, Ajahn Brahm’s teaching is quite different when it comes to the resultant absorption stage. I have never read anything substantial on the distinct technical differences between the two teachers, so I have decided to write a post myself. Now you are reading the one that exists.

The Dark Jhāna

There are many differences between Ajahn Brahmavamso and Pa-Auk jhāna. The main difference is that Ajahn Brahm’s version of “jhāna” has no light. Here is an excerpt from Ajahn Brahm’s book Simply This Moment: (pīti-sukha means joy and pleasurable feeling)

“The samādhi nimmitta is like a gateway into the mind. Because you have just come from the realm of the five senses, the kāmaloka, you interpret the samādhi nimmitta with the language of the five senses. That is why it appears to be a light. As you maintain your attention on the samādhi nimmitta, if you go further from the world of the five senses, the perception of the samādhi nimmitta changes. The perception of light disappears and you go to the heart that is just a very pleasant experience which we call pītisukha. You do not need to think, “What does pītisukha mean?” “What is pīti, what is sukha?” You cannot know the answer to those questions by looking at the suttas. The only way to know what pītisukha means, as it appears in the first jhāna , is to gain that first jhāna and know that at this stage it is the object of the mind. It is the object of mind consciousness, the one thing the mind is aware of. Because pīti-sukha is extremely pleasant, peaceful, and satisfying, the mind finds it very easy to find contentment in that one mental image; so the mind does the work at this stage.”

(Simply This Moment Page 15.)

Does this really mean no light at all? He does say, “mental image” at the end of the quote. To clarify this, I personally asked Ajahn Brahm about this quote when he came to Na-Uayana, Sri Lanka some time around 2009. He explained that, “The nimitta is the gateway to jhāna but not the object of jhāna.” He continued, “Pīti-sukha is the object(s) of jhāna. The nimitta and kasiṇa are the gateways to jhāna but not the objects of jhāna themselves.”

Another reference: Ajahn Brahmavamso also often talks about cat that is smiling and slowly the face disappears but the smile remains. “The perception of light disappears” seems to match this common and confusing mystical simile he often mentions.

Or it is like the simile that I like to use of the Cheshire cat in Alice in
Wonderland, by Lewis Carol. First, the smiling face of a Cheshire Cat
appears in the blue sky. As Alice and the Red Queen observe the image,
the Cat’s head gradually disappears. Soon, only a mouth is left with an
endearing smile. Then the mouth disappears, but the smile still remains!
The body has gone, but the beauty remains.

The Jhanas, Ajahn Brahmavamso,Page 13 , and several other books

If you still cannot believe that there is no light in Ajahn Brahm’s version of “jhāna”, I encourage you to write Ajahn Brahmavamso and ask him about this yourself. He will confirm what is said here in his book quotations and in the talk when he was in Sri Lanka. The email and telephone contact information is located at https://bswa.org/location/bodhinyana-monastery/

The Vibe

One thing that is strange is that in his more popular books, Ajahn Brahm mentions the nimitta and a bright light and then sinking into the nimitta. The description stops there and it is more in line with the proper Buddhist texts. However, I assure you that the desired result in his teaching is to have no perception of light. Because of that, I find it strange and misleading.

Here is a more common quote from Ajahn Brahmavamso which seems to be okay on the surface:


When the nimitta is radiant and stable, then its energy builds up
moment by moment. It is like adding peace upon peace upon peace,
until the peace becomes huge! As the peace becomes huge, the
pitisukha becomes huge and the nimitta grows luminosity. If one can
maintain the one-pointedness here by keeping one’s focus on the very
center of the nimitta, the power will reach a critical level. One will feel as
if the knower is being drawn into the nimitta, that one is falling into the
most glorious bliss. Alternatively, one may feel that the nimitta
approaches until it envelops the knower, swallowing one up in cosmic
ecstasy. One is entering jhāna.

(The Jhanas, Ajhan Brahmavamso, Page 25 and other books)

The Pa-Auk method is nearly the same as Ajahn Brahm’s quote above but Pa-Auk is stated in a more technical and boring way.

  • There is a nimitta (bright light)
  • You sink into the nimitta
  • You stay there for a long time.

That is considered jhāna when one can sustain that nimitta continuously for hours. Some Pa-Auk yogis go for 7 to 12 hours at our monastery for the first jhāna in order to assure confidence in the practitioner about jhāna.

So why would the light disappear with Ajahn Brahmavamso’s version of jhāna while giving nearly the same instructions as Pa-Auk Sayadawgyi?

It is the vibe of Ajahn Brahm’s teachings where he “plays up” the peaceful feeling and joy of meditation so the intention inclines for the peaceful bliss feeling to be the object of meditation instead of the nimitta itself. Go ahead and read his quotes again. Even the title of his commercial book, Mindfulness, Bliss and Beyond, gives a vibe and also a craving. You can get a vibe from his talks and writings all along the way so that you are primed to focus on feeling good during the peak of meditation when you go inside. His disciples focus on that instead of the light. That is how, why and when the perception of light disappears. It’s the vibe or grooming that happens along Ajahn Brahm’s path. This is why choosing a correct teacher is very important. He encourages craving to be able to “feel the jhāna factors” which is warned against in the Visuddhimagga and also the Pa-Auk Teachings. There are 5 factors in jhāna often referred to as jhāna factors.

  • vitakka: applied thought on the nimitta object
  • vicāra: sustained thought on the nimitta object
  • pīti: joy/rapture or the liking of the nimitta object
  • sukha: pleasure/happiness related to the nimitta object
  • ekaggata: one pointedness or a single object (nimitta) in the mind

It should be noted that pīti and sukha are present in the mind during jhāna. However, they are not the object of focus. If it is raining and you are driving, the road is your object of focus, not the rain. However, the rain is still very apparent and can affect the driving and the road. If you pay too much attention to the rain as your primary object while driving, you will fall off the road. Let’s look at the quote which warns against feeling the factors from the Visuddhimagga: Reviewing means paying attention to the factors listed above. Reviewing diverts the attention that was once focused on the light towards feeling. The mind can only focus on one thing at a time as its primary focus. If you don’t focus on the light, it can disappear.

“When a beginner has reached the first jhāna in this sign, he should enter upon it often without reviewing it much. For the first jhāna factors occur crudely and weakly in one who reviews it much. Then because of that they do not become conditions for higher endeavor. While he is endeavouring for the unfamiliar [higher jhāna] he falls away from the first jhāna and fails to reach the second.”

(Vsm. Path of Purification, Bhikkhu Nyanamoli Page 204)

Here is a quote from Knowing & Seeing by Venerable Pa-Auk Saydawgyi. In this book, you can see that the feeling of the jhāna factors is delayed until the very end of the meditation. Ajahn Brahm’s instruction is to “go into the heart” right away and stay there as the object of jhāna. There is a big difference. Read the correct version below:

How You Attain Jhāna:
When the five controlling faculties, faith, effort, mindfulness, concentration, and understanding are sufficiently developed, concentration will go beyond access, up to absorption concentration.

When you reach jhāna, your mind will know the paṭibhāga-nimitta without interruption. This can continue for several hours, even all night, or for a whole day. When [after] your mind stays continuously concentrated on the paṭibhāga-nimitta for one or two hours, you should try to discern the area in the heart where the mind-door (bhavaṅga consciousness) rests, that is the heart-base materiality. The bhavaṅga consciousness is bright and luminous, and the commentaries explain that it is the mind-door (manodvāra). If you try many times, again and again, you will eventually discern both the mind-door, and paṭibhāga-nimitta as it appears there. You should then discern the five jhāna factors one at a time. With continued practice, you will be able to discern them all together at once.

Knowing & Seeing, Venerable Pa-Auk Sayadawgyi, page 70

The Pa-Auk or Visuddhimagga Method not only follows the Commentary and Abhidhamma faithfully, but it is also observed in what might be well over a thousand Pa-Auk practitioners who have experience with this method.

Do you need a nimitta for jhāna?

According to the classic Theravada Commentary texts and Abhidhamma the nimitta or kasiṇa are the object of jhāna concentration. That means the nimitta is the object of the mind during the whole duration of jhāna, not just the entering or sinking stage. Ajahn Brahm stands firm with his dark jhāna definition and method even though it is not found in the Pāḷi texts.

Below is a quote from a proper Pāḷi source that mentions the nimitta is necessary for jhāna

But the counterpart sign is only found in the kasiṇas, foulness, the parts of the body, and mindfulness of breathing. It is by means of the counterpart sign that access concentration and absorption concentration occur.

Abhidhammatthasangha Manual of Abhidhamma p340

Objects For Vipassanā and Concepts

Likewise, pīti and sukha have no light by themselves. They are also two distinct objects (not one). They are called cetasikas or mental components. These mental components are categorized as “real vipassanā objects”. They arise and pass away very quickly and are subject to the 3 characteristics of insight; impermanence, suffering and non-self. They are always changing and that is why they are not suitable for jhāna concentration.

In contrast, a nimitta is a concept (paññatti). I have written about concepts in meditation at: https://americanmonk.org/concept-meditation/ . A concept does not change. If you were to look at a row of vehicles, you could know them all as vehicles despite the variations in shape, make, size or color. The concept or general defining characteristic does not change. That is why although the light gets bright and shiny as concentration grows, one should not pay attention to the shape or color. This too causes concentration to drop.

29) The colour should not be reviewed. The characteristic should not be given attention. But rather, while not ignoring the colour, attention should be given by setting the mind on the [name] concept as the most outstanding mental datum, relegating the colour to the position of a property of its physical support. That [conceptual state] can be called by anyone he likes among the names for….(earth kasina section of vsm)

Vsm, The Path of Purification, Bhikkhu Nyanamoli Pages 119-120

So jhāna needs a concept rather than a real vipassanā object such as pīti or sukha. It also needs a single object of focus. Pīti or sukha are two separate objects. Jhāna also needs a nimitta for the entire duration of the jhāna and not just the entry point. While pīti or sukha can be considered the glue for the focus on the nimitta, glue without an object and by itself is useless and just gooey. The teachings might appear to be the same but one must focus on the correct vibe to stay in line with the Pāḷi texts which have proven themselves with the many meditation yogis who practice successfully at Pa-Auk. There are 3 or 4 generations of teachers now at Pa-Auk with over 60+ meditation centers that shine across the world. The Buddhist Texts, Abhidhamma and Commentaries are correct and should be trusted. May this article help you understand what is correct, and the correct vibe to follow. There are however “some” useful things in Ajahn Brahm’s books, but you must understand what to look out for. You have to be skilled to know how to sift the right from the wrong, and the subtle underlying vibes mix in with everything like salt added to a curry. It can lead you astray if you dare to follow or even peek at that route. So be careful not fall victim to being groomed to “feeling the factors” before the correct time occurs and one should only check those factors for brief moment. Otherwise, as Ajahn Brahm says, “The perception of light will disappear” and you will be left in the dark.

For further reading, please see: Meditation Books on my Buddhist Resource Page here https://americanmonk.org/buddhist-book-and-web-resources/

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6 thoughts on “Ajahn Brahmavamso’s Dark Jhāna

  1. Thank you Bhante for pointing out the key difference.
    I would wonder if there’re other qualitative divergences between the two traditions. As far as I know, many of my friends practising jhanas in the Pa-Auk tradition claim that they still can hear sounds and have some slight sensation of touch in jhanas. They often say that their attention turns toward the nimitta but other sense objects may still lurk in the background of their awareness. On the other hand, Ajahn Brahm seems to firmly insist that five senses are completely shut down in jhanas.
    Could you please write more on the issue!
    Thank you again for your effort to make dhamma clear and transparent.

    1. You should try to read my Abhidhamma Lessons book found on this website.
      Shaila Catherine also says she hears sounds.
      Ven Mahamoggalana also heard sounds before he was fully enlightened. (Parajika 4 mula plus commentary)

      Ajahn Brahm says that some sounds can enter during first jhana but he insists not in the remaining ones.
      I would like to test his meditation. I really would.. deaf jhana is different from not hearing sounds.
      Did you know that in 2010ish.. there was only one Ajhan Brahm monk that we know of who had first jhana and a little bit of 2nd (unstable).? (He does not groove with Ajahn Brahm anymore, but is still a monk)
      That was it for Theravada monks who had attained anything with Ajahn Brahm. I’m a monk, and I can ask around. I asked this loaded question the same day I asked the other questions: “How many Theravada monks from start to finish have you taught all four jhanas to?” I knew the answer was 0. His answer was, “Not many I have not counted.”

      There are some pa-auk monks who have pure jhanas. For instance the 24 hour jhana monk in my blog can get pure jhana for 3 hours easily. Another friend also told me the same. I rarely talk in detail with other monks about their own practice. Some have and some do not…

      Basically, if you pay attention to if you hear sounds during meditation, you will hear sounds. It is when you are reviewing, you will understand. Ask your friends. Read my book. The last chapter is on Jhana.

      However, the vipassana can be done with access concentration including past life knowledges (vipassana not abhinnya). You need to “know and see” and that is the most important thing.

      1. Thank you bhante for your care and consideration!
        I’ve been scrutinizing your post on the 24-hour-jhana monk. It’s truly eye-opening and inspiring! As I’ve perused your post, there’re some parts that I would very appreciate if you can help clarify.

        From my understanding, the bhante with pure jhanas seems to emphasize that the experience of inside absorption is significantly different from that of access absorption. For example, he said: “When you go inside, the feeling is different. You can’t do anything.”

        Also, in the 29th minute of your interview, there was the curious part:

        “`
        [29:00] Then after that you feel so frustrated with them. Ah because of these, this mind feels all these things, and you definitely feel the separation of it. It’s like you take a piece of wood, and then take an ax and chop it. You feel that half of it just slipped away. Fell off. Like that, the gross factors just fall off. And then the other three factors just stay. The Piti, Sukha, Ekaggatā …they just stay..and then….

        [Bhikkhu Subhuti:] Nimitta go more..….

        More bright and more powerful… more powerful…. Second [jhāna], it’s like you turn a page. It’s not gross. It is like a modern day phone or something [with a] touch system. You just swipe and you turn to another part. Or it’s like turning a leaf or a page of a book.
        “`

        It seems that you tried to confront him squarely on the issue of nimitta in jhana. But before you interupted, the other bhante seemed to be talking about the mental factors in the 2nd jhana, “Like that, the gross factors just fall off. And then the other three factors just stay. The Piti, Sukha, Ekaggatā …they just stay..and then….”

        This makes me wonder about the part right after your cutting-in, “More bright and more powerful… more powerful…. Second [jhāna].” Was he trying to say that the nimitta before the 2nd jhana is more powerful than the one before the 1st jhana? Or did he mean that the experience of nimitta inside the jhana is more powerful?

        It would be much appreciated if you can help clarify the very crucial point!

        p/s: My friends read your post and admitted that their jhanas are not as pure as the jhana attained by the other bhante. So you are my only hope to gain some exact clarity on the issue.

      2. “`
        [1:52]When you are in the jhāna do you feel any substance in the nimitta or something like that, sort of? Or is it just only looking…

        Just…Just like you are bathed with it, no.. showered with it …and like just inside it no, … and its showering all over you, no?

        [2:12] But you always know that this nimitta is the breath. Always know or, you just focussing on light.

        Afterwards, the teacher also ask us to just focus on the light… then no more breath story.
        “`
        In the part you also seemed to directly ask the other bhante about the nimitta in jhana; however, his answer was rather ambivalent.

  2. Bhante, thank you very much for sharing your post. It helps me reinvestigate my understanding of Jhana. But I think you misunderstood Ajhan Brahm of “pitisukha” when he described Jhana. In my opinion, he used the word “pitisukha” not pointing to mental factors of joy and happiness, but to the same experience with your 24h friend bhikkhu. In other words, I believe his description of experiencing jhana and your 24h friend bhikkhu’s description of experiencing jhana are the same, just using different words.

    1. I personally asked Ajahn Brahm on this issue. I personally quoted from “Simply this moment” which says “perception of light disappears”. In person, he told me that “pitisukha is the object of meditation and not the nimmitta. The nimitta is the doorway/gateway to jhana but not the jhana object itself.” Lastly, to prove my point further, I asked him, “What is the difference between different samatha objects like, light kasina, anapana nimitta, and white kasina?” As expected, he said there was no difference. However, Pa-Auk yogis and scholars alike would disagree. It is best you write Ajahn Brahm and reference this page. Let me know what happens, he rarely or never retracts what he says. 🙂

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